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RESOLVED That the Director of Education be authorised to publish a Decision Letter confirming the discontinuation of Manorbier VC School.
RESOLVED That the Director of Education be authorised to publish a Decision Letter confirming the discontinuation of Ysgol Clydau. Councillor Paul Miller offered to work with Councillors Ward and Kidney, and with the wider community, to support pupils and families through any transition arising from the decision. He indicated that the Education Department would assist in addressing concerns, including those relating to potential home schooling, and invited suggestions on how best to provide support to affected children.
RESOLVED (a) That the allocation of Overview and Scrutiny Committee Chairs be approved as follows: (i) Corporate - Independent Group (ii) Services – Independent Group (iii) Schools and Learning – Conservative Group (iv) Policy and Pre-decision – Conservative Group (v) Social Care – Executive Group The Head of Democratic Services then advised of governance implications affecting the Democratic Services Committee due to the appointment of Councillor Sam Skyrme-Blackhall to the Cabinet since the Annual Meeting. She advised that a Cabinet Member cannot chair the Democratic Services Committee and only one Cabinet Member may sit on the Committee. Accordingly, it was noted that Councillor Michelle Bateman had stepped down from the Committee but wished to remain as a reserve member. This created a vacancy for an Unaffiliated Member. Councillor Jacob Williams Moved that Councillor Steve Alderman be nominated to fill the vacant seat; Seconded by Councillor Jon Harvey. The vote, undertaken by way of a show of hands, was carried. RESOLVED (b) That Councillor Steve Alderman be appointed as an Unaffiliated Member to the vacant seat on the Democratic Services Committee. Council was then advised that a new Chair of the Democratic Services Committee needed to be appointed. Councillor Rhys Jordan nominated Councillor Jonathan Grimes; Seconded by Councillor Mark Carter. Councillor Jacob Williams nominated Councillor Steve Alderman; Seconded by Councillor Bethan Price. Prior to a ballot, Councillor Grimes withdrew his nomination. The vote, undertaken by way of a show of hands, was carried. RESOLVED (c) That Councillor Steve Alderman be appointed as Chair of the Democratic Services Committee. The Presiding Member Moved that Councillor Michelle Bateman’s resignation from the Democratic Services Committee be noted and that she be appointed as a Reserve Member; Seconded by Councillor Jon Harvey. The vote, undertaken by way of a show of hands, was carried. RESOLVED (d) That Councillor Michelle Bateman’s resignation from the Democratic Services Committee be noted and that she be appointed as a Reserve Member to the Committee.
The following declarations of interest were made: (a) Agenda Item No. 3 - Proposal for the discontinuation of Manorbier Church in Wales Voluntary Controlled School - Objection Report Councillor Steve Alderman declared a personal interest by virtue of being a Governor of Ysgol Penrhyn and St Florence School which have become federated; and a family member being a teacher in the Tenby cluster of primary schools. Councillor Rhys Jordan declared a personal interest by virtue of being a Governor of St Florence and Penrhyn Schools. Councillor Chris Williams declared a personal interest by virtue of two family members being teachers at Pembrokeshire junior schools. Councillor Maureen Bowen declared a personal interest by virtue of her partner being a teacher employed by the Authority. (b) Agenda Item No. 4 - Proposal for the discontinuation of Ysgol Clydau - Objection Report Councillor Shon Rees declared a personal and prejudicial interest by virtue of being a Director of a company supplying home to school transport to Ysgol Clydau. Councillor Iwan Ward declared a personal interest by virtue of being a Governor of Ysgol Clydau, appointed by the Authority. Councillor John Davies declared a personal interest by virtue of being a Governor of Ysgol Eglwyswrw and Ysgol Cilgerran, appointed by the Authority, which are in the adjoining catchment area to Ysgol Clydau. Councillor Chris Williams declared a personal interest by virtue of two family members being teachers at Pembrokeshire junior schools. Councillor Huw Murphy declared a personal interest by virtue of being a Governor of Ysgol Bro Preseli, appointed by the Authority. Councillor Maureen Bowen declared a personal interest by virtue of her partner being a teacher employed by the Authority. (c) Agenda Item No. 5 - Emergency General Surgery at Withybush Hospital Councillor Neil Prior declared a personal interest by virtue of being an Independent Member of Hywel Dda University Health Board. Councillor Michelle Bateman declared a personal interest by virtue of her employment with a company that has a contract with the Hywel Dda University Health Board which is not related to the discussion. Councillor Bethan Price declared a personal interest by virtue of a close family member working at Withybush Hospital. Councillor Alun Wills declared a personal and prejudicial interest by virtue of being employed by Hywel Dda University Health Board. Councillor Simon Hancock declared a personal interest by virtue of two family members working in the primary care sector but not directly for the Health Board. Councillor Thomas Tudor declared a personal and prejudicial interest by virtue of being employed by Hywel Dda University Health Board. Councillor Delme Harries declared a personal interest by virtue of a close family member working for the NHS. Councillor John Cole declared a personal interest by virtue of a family member being employed by Hywel Dda University Health Board. Councillor Anji Tinley queried the consistency of declarations of interest, particularly in relation to connections with the Local Education Authority. She referred to a case where a councillor was unable to vote due to employment linked to contracted bus services and questioned why this differed from situations involving partners or family members employed by the Authority. In response, the Head of Law and Governance explained that a prejudicial interest arises where a councillor or close associate stands to gain or lose financially, requiring withdrawal. Each case is assessed on its specific circumstances. Councillor Tinley expressed concern about perceived inconsistency, noting that many councillors have connections to the Authority but are treated differently. The Head of Law and Governance clarified that LEA-appointed governors are covered by a specific exemption and constitute a personal interest only, whereas cases involving potential direct impact on a close associate, such as employment risk, would be considered prejudicial and prevent participation.
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RESOLVED That the Director of Education be authorised to publish a Decision Letter confirming the discontinuation of Manorbier VC School.
Council considered a report by the Director for Education on the consultation feedback received in response to the proposal to discontinue Manorbier Church in Wales Voluntary Controlled (VC) School. Prior to consideration of the item, Councillor Alec Cormack raised a point of order in relation to concerns that a vote for Option 1 could be in breach of the School Organisation Code. The Presiding Member noted that points of order typically relate to breaches of procedural rules or the law and indicated that the matter could be raised during the course of the debate. Councillor Paul Miller, Cabinet Member for Education, introduced the statutory objection report following the publication of the proposal to discontinue Manorbier VC School. He confirmed that all requirements of the School Organisation Code (Wales) 2018 had been followed, including consultation, publication of a statutory notice, and consideration of objections under the relevant legislation. He advised that, in determining the matter, Council must consider factors set out in the Code, including educational standards, sustainability, community impact, transport, and Additional Learning Needs (ALN) provision, alongside the evidence and responses received. Having reviewed the objections, Councillor Miller stated that he did not consider any of them materially altered the Council’s previous decision. He therefore Moved the Recommendation that Council authorise the Director of Education to publish a decision letter confirming the discontinuation of Manorbier VC School; Seconded by the Leader. Council discussed the report and the following key points were noted: Councillor Alec Cormack referred to a previous Council meeting (5 March), noting that the financial implications of returning the Manorbier site to the Diocese remained unclear at that time. He highlighted that the costs of closure were still unknown several months after the consultation had closed and cited paragraph 3.21 of the School Organisation Code, which requires consultation documents to set out financial costs. He questioned whether the consultation had therefore been defective and whether proceeding with a decision (Option 1) would be compliant with the Code. In response, the Director of Education advised that the Council had been clear regarding the general costs associated with the school. However, specific details relating to insurance, liabilities, and potential claims could not be disclosed due to legal and commercial sensitivities. He confirmed that these matters were being handled in line with established procedures and that Members had previously been provided with relevant financial information (Appendix H), including a reminder circulated shortly before the meeting. Councillor Paul Miller responded to Councillor Cormack’s concerns regarding the financial information provided, clarifying that the issue relates specifically to the potential return of the school site to the Diocese. He advised that Appendix H had previously set out a range of potential costs, but that any final figure would depend on future negotiations and therefore could not be determined in advance. He stated that this did not prevent the Council from making a decision. Councillor Cormack reiterated his concern, emphasising that the School Organisation Code requires financial costs to be included within consultation documents, and questioned whether proceeding without definitive figures was compliant with the Code. He maintained that this appeared to be a significant omission but acknowledged it was for officers to confirm their confidence in the process. In response, Councillor Miller stated that the Council does have sufficient financial information regarding the operation of the school and the cost of alternative provision. He stressed that the outstanding issue was limited to the future of the site, which could only be resolved following a decision and subsequent negotiation with the Diocese. He argued that requiring a final negotiated figure in advance would create a circular situation, preventing any decision from being made. Councillor Miller concluded that he was satisfied the Council had adequate financial information to proceed, noting that the Council’s position on potential outcomes had been outlined in Appendix H and recirculated to Members prior to the meeting. Councillor Phil Kidney expressed concern regarding the financial figures presented, stating that costs appeared to have increased significantly within a short timeframe without clear explanation or supporting detail. He criticised the lack of transparency around how figures had been calculated and warned that this could expose the Authority to legal challenge from the Diocese. He supported Councillor Cormack’s earlier comments, indicating that he did not consider the proposals to be sufficiently robust. Councillor Neil Prior sought clarification on the potential impact on pupils should Option 1 be approved, including the expected number of pupils enrolled for the 2026 academic year and the arrangements for securing alternative school places. In response, Councillor Paul Miller advised that approximately 21 pupils were expected to be enrolled at the start of the 2026 academic year. He confirmed that sufficient surplus capacity existed within the cluster to accommodate all pupils, with some expected to travel shorter distances to alternative schools and the maximum travel distance being approximately 2.1 miles. Councillor Alan Dennison queried whether the projected figure of 21 pupils related only to the existing school, suggesting that a new school facility might attract higher enrolment. Councillor Paul Miller responded that the figure represented the expected number on roll in 2026 if the current school remained open, and that it was not possible to speculate on hypothetical scenarios regarding a new school. Councillor Dennison concluded that, in the absence of certainty regarding future costs associated with the proposal, he was unable to support the recommendation to close the school. Councillor Scott Thorley criticised the Council’s handling of the school situation, stating that it had adversely affected staff, parents, pupils, and the wider community. He highlighted concerns about the impact on staff wellbeing and the prolonged uncertainty experienced over several years. He further stated that previous assurances regarding a new school had raised expectations which were not fulfilled, and questioned the reliability of pupil number data, suggesting it did not fully reflect factors such as COVID-19 and other issues raised in objections. Councillor Thorley also raised concerns about a perceived loss of public confidence in the Council and the impact of the decision on rural communities. He concluded that, in light of these concerns, he was unable to support the proposal. Councillor Phil Kidney, as local Member, commended the headteacher and staff for their resilience and professionalism, noting recent recognition received despite ongoing uncertainty. He apologised on behalf of the Council for the way staff and the school community had been treated over a prolonged period. He expressed strong criticism of the Council’s handling of the situation since the 2022 fire, citing a lack of engagement with the community, concerns regarding the consultation process, and inaccuracies in data presented (including attendance and pupil number figures). He also raised concerns about the Council’s relationship with the Diocese, suggesting there had been insufficient negotiation and warning of potential financial and legal consequences. Councillor Kidney further questioned the wider financial priorities and consistency of decision-making and urged Members to set aside political considerations and act in the interests of the community. He concluded by proposing that Council reject the recommendation to close the school and instead support Option 2, to retain Manorbier VC School. It was clarified that a further motion was not required as anyone in support of Option 2 should vote against Option 1. Councillor Alan Dennison referred to a recent solicitor’s letter issued on behalf of the Diocese, stating that it asserted a requirement for a replacement school to be built and raised concerns regarding a perceived lack of dialogue between the Council and the Diocese. He warned of potential legal challenge, including the risk of judicial review and associated financial implications. Councillor Jamie Adams supported these concerns, highlighting statements within the letter alleging a pattern of antagonistic actions by the Council towards Church in Wales schools and sought the Head of Law and Governance’s view on that point. He expressed concern regarding the Council’s duty as an education partner and queried whether there had been a failure to engage appropriately with the Diocese, including in the context of equalities obligations. He further emphasised the potential financial significance of the site issue and indicated that, in light of the information now available, he was no longer able to support the proposal. In response, the Head of Law & Governance advised that she was not directly involved in earlier stages of the process or negotiations and therefore could not provide detailed comment, suggesting that the Director of Education would be better placed to respond on those matters. Councillor Paul Miller responded by emphasising that the Council’s primary consideration was the educational welfare and outcomes for pupils. He cautioned Members against treating the Diocese’s solicitor’s letter as definitive, noting that it reflected the position of an interested party. He rejected suggestions of bias against Church in Wales schools, citing previous support for such provision, and urged Members to focus on the educational merits of the proposal when making their decision. Councillor Jamie Adams thanked Councillor Miller for his response but expressed concern regarding legal oversight of the matter and questioned who was providing legal advice to the Authority. In response, the Presiding Member clarified that the Authority has a number of legally qualified officers and indicated that it would not be appropriate to criticise the Head of Law and Governance for not having direct involvement in this specific matter. Councillor David Bryan expressed dissatisfaction with how the matter had been handled overall. He highlighted concerns on both sides, noting the potential risk of litigation if the school was closed, as well as uncertainty regarding the long-term costs of keeping it open. He indicated that, in view of these concerns, he was not content with the way the process had been conducted. Councillor Aled Thomas, speaking as Chair of the Schools Modernisation Working Group, acknowledged concerns raised during the debate but emphasised that Members were making decisions independently and not under political direction. He clarified that there was no political whipping involved. He recognised that the situation had been complex and difficult, describing it as a significant challenge over a number of years. He noted that the Working Group had previously considered the matter on a cross-party basis and had unanimously supported progressing the consultation. Councillor Thomas stressed the importance of focusing on the future educational needs of pupils, expressing concern that some children had already spent several years without access to a permanent school building. He cautioned against creating unrealistic expectations about the possibility of a new school being delivered quickly and urged Members to make a decision based on what would provide certainty and the best educational outcomes for pupils going forward. Councillor Anji Tinley challenged comments regarding pupil numbers, stating that pupils were not choosing temporary accommodation but had expected a rebuilt school. She strongly criticised the Council’s handling of the matter, referring to unfulfilled promises, shortcomings in the consultation process, and concerns about the accuracy of data presented, including pupil capacity and surplus places. She expressed concern that the community’s views, including significant consultation responses, had not been adequately considered, and questioned how Members could make informed decisions without what she regarded as complete or accurate information. She also raised issues regarding insurance arrangements and the level of cover in place at the time of the fire. Councillor Tinley further criticised the response to correspondence from the Diocese, stating that it should be treated with greater seriousness, and expressed concern about the wider handling of relationships and process. She concluded that the school should be rebuilt and indicated a lack of confidence in the decision-making process. In response, Councillor Paul Miller confirmed that the Diocese’s solicitor’s letter had been read and considered. However, he emphasised that it represents the position of one party in an ongoing dispute and should not be treated as definitive. He stated that the Council would consider the content carefully and take appropriate legal advice, and reiterated his view that claims of bias against faith-based education were not supported by evidence. The Leader acknowledged the significant efforts of Councillor Kidney and the Manorbier community over the previous four years, recognising the impact of losing a village school. She emphasised that this was a difficult decision for Members, noting that such decisions are part of their responsibilities as councillors. She highlighted the need to consider both local and county-wide educational provision, including the level of surplus places within the wider school cluster. Councillor Hodgson stressed the importance of providing certainty for pupils, families, and staff, particularly given the proximity to the new academic year. She stated that a clear decision was necessary to enable pupils to know their future educational arrangements and urged Members to support the recommendation. Councillor Shon Rees raised concerns about consistency of approach, questioning whether other schools in similar circumstances would be treated in the same way following a comparable incident. He expressed concern about how Manorbier School had been handled and emphasised the need to ensure fairness and appropriate support for schools across the county. Councillor Huw Murphy expressed concern at how the situation had developed, questioning why the Council had reached a position of ongoing dispute with the Diocese rather than working collaboratively as an education partner. He stated that this situation should not have arisen. He reiterated previous concerns regarding the lack of clarity on financial implications, noting that key cost information had not been shared with Members in a timely manner and that figures had only recently been introduced. He questioned how such estimates had been derived and whether they were based on robust evidence, raising concerns about Members being asked to make decisions without full information. Councillor Murphy also referred to earlier calls for the matter to be deferred, arguing that the Council had consistently been asked to make decisions without all the necessary details. He highlighted that assurances had previously been given but not delivered and described the handling of the situation following the fire as a significant failure. He further warned that proceeding with closure could result in substantial financial consequences for the Authority, including potential legal action, and stated that such a decision should only be taken with full understanding of all risks and costs. He concluded that he did not consider a sufficient case for closure had been made. Councillor Tony Wilcox reflected on the difficulty of the decision and noted that he had previously supported retaining the school. He raised concerns about the financial sustainability of small schools and asked for clarification on the comparative cost per pupil between Manorbier School and larger schools. In response, Councillor Paul Miller advised that funding for Manorbier School was approximately £3,330 per pupil above the local authority average. He explained that school funding operates on a sliding scale, with smaller schools typically receiving higher per-pupil funding due to lower pupil numbers, which in turn results in a greater subsidy compared to larger schools. Councillor Wilcox indicated that, if this level of additional cost was typical of small schools, he would find it difficult to justify, expressing the view that funding disparities of that scale would not be equitable across the school system. Councillor Phil Kidney responded by stating that the higher per-pupil cost at Manorbier was influenced by the Council maintaining staffing levels based on expectations that the school would be rebuilt, which had contributed to the elevated costs. Councillor Michael John stated that he had approached the matter with an open mind and reflected on earlier discussions within the School Modernisation Working Group. He noted that the decision to proceed to consultation had been based on the information available at the time and did not predetermine his current position. He highlighted that concerns regarding rebuild costs had been raised as early as 2024 and 2025, and suggested that if fuller financial information had been available earlier, it might have influenced the decision on whether to proceed with consultation. He also suggested that alternative options, such as a new area school on the Manorbier site, may have been considered. He concluded that, given outstanding uncertainties, he remained undecided and would consider the remainder of the debate before determining his position. In response, Councillor Paul Miller clarified that Appendix H, which included financial information, had been provided to Members in advance of the previous Council meeting and was not new information. Councillor Alec Cormack revisited his earlier concerns regarding compliance with the School Organisation Code, specifically whether proceeding without full financial disclosure could place Members at risk of breaching their duties. The Head of Law and Governance advised that Members must have regard to the Code, but noted that the circumstances were unusual. She explained that including detailed financial information relating to potential liabilities could prejudice the Council’s position in any future legal dispute, particularly in relation to the Diocese, and therefore such information may not be appropriate for full disclosure during consultation. Councillor Viv Stoddart acknowledged that earlier decisions had been taken in good faith but warned that failing to support Option 1 would be a further mistake. She emphasised the need to act in the wider public interest, noting declining school rolls and surplus places across the Authority and urged Members to consider the broader position of primary education provision and supported progressing school closures where necessary. Councillor Jacob Williams echoed earlier recognition of community advocacy but addressed concerns raised regarding compliance with the School Organisation Code. He suggested that requirements to consider financial implications should be interpreted as relating to known or knowable costs. He noted that the specific costs in question were uncertain and subject to future negotiation, and therefore could not be fully determined at this stage. He also referred to previously circulated financial estimates and indicated that uncertainty applied to both options under consideration. Councillor Alan Dennison questioned the weight being given to financial considerations. He highlighted that many small schools incur higher per-pupil costs and argued that decisions should also take into account the wider role of schools within their communities. Councillor Anji Tinley questioned whether sufficient Members had visited the school and engaged directly with staff and pupils. She raised concerns regarding the extent of damage following the fire and queried the basis of estimated rebuild costs. She highlighted the school’s performance and achievements, arguing that decisions should prioritise the needs of children rather than financial considerations. Councillor Paul Miller, in summing up the debate, reiterated that his primary consideration was ensuring the best possible educational outcomes for pupils. He stated that, in his view, maintaining a small school operating in temporary accommodation did not provide an optimal learning environment. He acknowledged the difficulty of the decision but expressed confidence that alternative provision, with limited travel distances, would better support pupils’ education. He also noted that both closure and retention carried financial implications. Councillor Phil Kidney made a final appeal for the school to remain open, disputing the stated travel distances and emphasising the impact on pupils, staff, and the wider community. He criticised the Council’s handling of the situation over several years and reiterated concerns about aspects of the consultation process. He urged Members to reject Option 1 and support retaining the school. The vote to approve the Recommendation, undertaken by way of an electronic vote, was carried. The votes were recorded as follows: For the Motion: Councillors Michelle Bateman, Joshua Beynon, Maureen Bowen, Aaron Carey, Alistair Cameron, Mark Carter, Di Clements, John Davies, Pat Davies, Claire George, Nicola Gwynn, Simon Hancock, Jon Harvey, Tessa Hodgson, David Howlett, Rhys Jordan, Paul Miller, Bethan Price, Neil Prior, David Simpson, Sam Skyrme-Blackhall, Viv Stoddart, Aled Thomas, Marc Tierney, Thomas Tudor, Tony Wilcox, Jacob Williams, Guy Woodham, Steve Yelland, Danny Young [30] Against the Motion: Councillors Jamie Adams, John Cole, Alec Cormack, Alan Dennison, Tim Evans, Delme Harries, Mike James, Michael John, Phil Kidney, Elwyn Morse, Huw Murphy, Mel Phillips, Shon Rees, Billy Shaw, Vanessa Thomas, Scott Thorley, Anji Tinley, Iwan Ward, Michelle Wiggins, Chris Williams, Michael Williams, Alun Wills, Simon Wright [23] Abstentions: Councillors Steve Alderman, David Bryan, Jonathan Grimes, Nick Neumann [4] RESOLVED That the Director of Education be authorised to publish a Decision Letter confirming the discontinuation of Manorbier VC School.
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RESOLVED That the Director of Education be authorised to publish a Decision Letter confirming the discontinuation of Ysgol Clydau. Councillor Paul Miller offered to work with Councillors Ward and Kidney, and with the wider community, to support pupils and families through any transition arising from the decision. He indicated that the Education Department would assist in addressing concerns, including those relating to potential home schooling, and invited suggestions on how best to provide support to affected children.
[Having previously declared a personal and prejudicial interest in this item of business, Councillor Shon Rees withdrew from the meeting.] Council considered a report by the Director for Education on the consultation feedback received in response to the proposal to discontinue Ysgol Clydau. Councillor Paul Miller, Cabinet Member for Education, introduced the statutory objection report following the proposal to discontinue Ysgol Clydau. He confirmed that all requirements of the School Organisation Code (Wales) 2018 had been complied with, including consultation, publication of a statutory notice, and consideration of objections under the relevant legislation. He advised that, in determining the matter, Council must have regard to the factors set out in the Code, including educational standards, sustainability, community impact, transport, and Additional Learning Needs (ALN) provision, together with the evidence and responses received. Councillor Miller stated that, having reviewed the objections, none materially altered the Council’s previous decision. He also noted that, as a designated rural school, the presumption against closure had been fully considered throughout the process. He therefore Moved that Council authorises the Director of Education to publish a decision letter confirming the discontinuation of Ysgol Clydau; Seconded by the Leader. Council discussed the report and the following key points were noted: Councillor Iwan Ward, as local Member, spoke on behalf of the local community, expressing concern that the consultation process had not meaningfully influenced the recommendation. He questioned the purpose of consultation if strong local opposition did not result in reconsideration. He emphasised the importance of Ysgol Clydau to the community, highlighting its role in supporting local identity, Welsh language and culture, and community cohesion. He warned that closure would have wider and lasting impacts beyond education and suggested that alternative options, such as federation or collaborative arrangements, had not been sufficiently explored. Councillor Ward urged Members to reject the proposal and work with the community to secure a sustainable future for the school. Councillor Alec Cormack referred to the report’s suggestion that the school site could be repurposed for community use in the event of closure. He sought assurance that this option would be actively pursued. In response, Councillor Paul Miller confirmed that any such proposal would be considered in line with the Council’s Community Asset Transfer policy and indicated that he would support efforts to explore community use of the site, subject to appropriate processes. Councillor Anji Tinley expressed concern that the presumption against closure of rural schools, as set out in the School Organisation Code, was not being upheld in practice. She emphasised the importance of rural schools to community life, Welsh-medium education, and cultural continuity, and questioned whether alternative options had been fully explored. She also highlighted the level of community engagement and opposition, arguing that residents’ views were not being adequately taken into account. She stated that decisions should prioritise the needs of children rather than financial considerations. Councillor Huw Murphy similarly supported retaining the school, emphasising its importance within a Welsh-speaking community and its role in maintaining the Welsh language. He argued that low pupil numbers alone should not justify closure and noted that rural education provision inherently carries higher costs. He stated that closing such schools could undermine wider national objectives to promote the Welsh language and warned that further closures could follow. Councillor John Davies reflected on his long experience in local education, including involvement in the creation of Ysgol Clydau. He acknowledged the emotional impact of closure but placed the issue within the broader context of declining pupil numbers and demographic change across rural areas. He noted that similar decisions were being taken across Wales and emphasised the Council’s responsibility to all pupils. He stated that larger schools could offer broader educational opportunities and concluded that, while regrettable, he would support closure on the basis of long-term sustainability and educational provision. Councillor Phil Kidney expressed his opposition to the proposal, raising concerns about the suitability of larger school environments for all pupils, particularly those with additional learning needs. He suggested that closure could lead to some children struggling and potentially increase reliance on home schooling. He also highlighted the wider community impact, noting that the loss of a school can affect social cohesion and community activity within rural areas. He confirmed his intention to vote against the recommendation. Councillor Bethan Price reiterated her support for retaining the school, commending local campaign efforts and emphasising the importance of the Welsh language and rural community identity. She confirmed her intention to oppose the closure. In summing up, Councillor Paul Miller clarified that the proposal was being considered under the School Organisation Code (Wales) 2018, which includes a presumption against closure for rural schools, and confirmed that this had been fully considered throughout the process. He advised that approximately 15 pupils were expected to be on roll in September 2026 and that, if the school was discontinued, the maximum travel distance to alternative provision would be approximately 3.1 miles, with Welsh-medium education remaining available. Councillor Miller acknowledged the sensitivity of the decision and the strength of community feeling, but reiterated his position that closure represented the best long-term outcome for pupils in terms of educational provision. Councillor Iwan Ward made a final contribution expressing concern that travel arrangements may not reflect the likely reality, as a number of parents had indicated they would consider home schooling if the school was to close. He warned that this could have negative consequences for pupils, the community, and wider educational provision. The Presiding Member thanked Councillor Ward for his contribution, acknowledging both his and Councillor Kidney’s advocacy on behalf of their communities. The vote, undertaken by way of an electronic vote, was carried. The votes were recorded as follows: For the Motion: Councillors Michelle Bateman, Joshua Beynon, Maureen Bowen, Alistair Cameron, Aaron Carey, Mark Carter, Di Clements, Alec Cormack, John Davies, Pat Davies, Claire George, Jonathan Grimes, Nicola Gwynn, Simon Hancock, Jon Harvey, Tessa Hodgson, David Howlett, Rhys Jordan, Paul Miller, Nick Neumann, Neil Prior, Sam Skyrme-Blackhall, David Simpson, Viv Stoddart, Aled Thomas, Marc Tierney, Thomas Tudor, Tony Wilcox, Jacob Williams, Guy Woodham, Steve Yelland, Danny Young [32] Against the Motion: Councillors Jamie Adams, John Cole, Alan Dennison, Tim Evans, Delme Harries, Mike James, Michael John, Phil Kidney, Elwyn Morse, Huw Murphy, Mel Phillips, Bethan Price, Vanessa Thomas, Scott Thorley, Anji Tinley, Iwan Ward, Michele Wiggins, Chris Williams, Michael Williams, Alun Wills, Simon Wright [21] Abstentions: Councillor Steve Alderman [1] RESOLVED That the Director of Education be authorised to publish a Decision Letter confirming the discontinuation of Ysgol Clydau. Councillor Paul Miller offered to work with Councillors Ward and Kidney, and with the wider community, to support pupils and families through any transition arising from the decision. He indicated that the Education Department would assist in addressing concerns, including those relating to potential home schooling, and invited suggestions on how best to provide support to affected children.
The meeting adjourned at 11:50 am and reconvened at 12:07 pm Councillors David Bryan and Billy Shaw left the meeting at this juncture.
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RESOLVED (a) That the allocation of Overview and Scrutiny Committee Chairs be approved as follows: (i) Corporate - Independent Group (ii) Services – Independent Group (iii) Schools and Learning – Conservative Group (iv) Policy and Pre-decision – Conservative Group (v) Social Care – Executive Group The Head of Democratic Services then advised of governance implications affecting the Democratic Services Committee due to the appointment of Councillor Sam Skyrme-Blackhall to the Cabinet since the Annual Meeting. She advised that a Cabinet Member cannot chair the Democratic Services Committee and only one Cabinet Member may sit on the Committee. Accordingly, it was noted that Councillor Michelle Bateman had stepped down from the Committee but wished to remain as a reserve member. This created a vacancy for an Unaffiliated Member. Councillor Jacob Williams Moved that Councillor Steve Alderman be nominated to fill the vacant seat; Seconded by Councillor Jon Harvey. The vote, undertaken by way of a show of hands, was carried. RESOLVED (b) That Councillor Steve Alderman be appointed as an Unaffiliated Member to the vacant seat on the Democratic Services Committee. Council was then advised that a new Chair of the Democratic Services Committee needed to be appointed. Councillor Rhys Jordan nominated Councillor Jonathan Grimes; Seconded by Councillor Mark Carter. Councillor Jacob Williams nominated Councillor Steve Alderman; Seconded by Councillor Bethan Price. Prior to a ballot, Councillor Grimes withdrew his nomination. The vote, undertaken by way of a show of hands, was carried. RESOLVED (c) That Councillor Steve Alderman be appointed as Chair of the Democratic Services Committee. The Presiding Member Moved that Councillor Michelle Bateman’s resignation from the Democratic Services Committee be noted and that she be appointed as a Reserve Member; Seconded by Councillor Jon Harvey. The vote, undertaken by way of a show of hands, was carried. RESOLVED (d) That Councillor Michelle Bateman’s resignation from the Democratic Services Committee be noted and that she be appointed as a Reserve Member to the Committee.
Council considered a report of the Head of Democratic Services on the allocation of Chairs of the Overview and Scrutiny Committees and the Democratic Services Committee. The Head of Democratic Services advised that, following the Annual Meeting of Council held on 15 May, a revised allocation of Overview and Scrutiny Committee Chairs had been requested by Group Leaders. The proposed changes were: • Independent Group: Corporate and Services • Conservative Group: Schools and Learning, and Policy and Pre-decision • Executive Group: Social Care The Presiding Member Moved the revised allocation; Seconded by Councillor Rhys Jordan. The vote, undertaken by way of a show of hands, was carried. RESOLVED (a) That the allocation of Overview and Scrutiny Committee Chairs be approved as follows: (i) Corporate - Independent Group (ii) Services – Independent Group (iii) Schools and Learning – Conservative Group (iv) Policy and Pre-decision – Conservative Group (v) Social Care – Executive Group The Head of Democratic Services then advised of governance implications affecting the Democratic Services Committee due to the appointment of Councillor Sam Skyrme-Blackhall to the Cabinet since the Annual Meeting. She advised that a Cabinet Member cannot chair the Democratic Services Committee and only one Cabinet Member may sit on the Committee. Accordingly, it was noted that Councillor Michelle Bateman had stepped down from the Committee but wished to remain as a reserve member. This created a vacancy for an Unaffiliated Member. Councillor Jacob Williams Moved that Councillor Steve Alderman be nominated to fill the vacant seat; Seconded by Councillor Jon Harvey. The vote, undertaken by way of a show of hands, was carried. RESOLVED (b) That Councillor Steve Alderman be appointed as an Unaffiliated Member to the vacant seat on the Democratic Services Committee. Council was then advised that a new Chair of the Democratic Services Committee needed to be appointed. Councillor Rhys Jordan nominated Councillor Jonathan Grimes; Seconded by Councillor Mark Carter. Councillor Jacob Williams nominated Councillor Steve Alderman; Seconded by Councillor Bethan Price. Prior to a ballot, Councillor Grimes withdrew his nomination. The vote, undertaken by way of a show of hands, was carried. RESOLVED (c) That Councillor Steve Alderman be appointed as Chair of the Democratic Services Committee. The Presiding Member Moved that Councillor Michelle Bateman’s resignation from the Democratic Services Committee be noted and that she be appointed as a Reserve Member; Seconded by Councillor Jon Harvey. The vote, undertaken by way of a show of hands, was carried. RESOLVED (d) That Councillor Michelle Bateman’s resignation from the Democratic Services Committee be noted and that she be appointed as a Reserve Member to the Committee.
Councillor Huw Murphy declared a personal and prejudicial interest in the agenda item relating to Emergency General Surgery at Withybush Hospital due to part-time employment at Withybush Hospital and withdrew from the meeting. The meeting adjourned at 12:40 pm and reconvened at 2:04 pm. Councillors Michael Williams, Simon Wright, Tony Wilcox, Chris Williams, Joshua Beynon, Aaron Carey, John Davies and Pat Davies were not present for the afternoon session.
[Having previously declared a personal and prejudicial interest in this item of business, Councillors Huw Murphy, Thomas Tudor and Alun Wills were not present for this part of the meeting.] The Presiding Member welcomed Professor Phil Kloer (Chief Executive), Lee Davies (Director of Strategic Planning), Mr Mark Henwood (Medical Director) and Alwena Hughes-Moakes (Communication and Engagement Director), Hywel Dda University Health Board to the meeting to brief the Council on service changes and specifically the issue of emergency general surgery. The Leader also welcomed representatives from Hywel Dda University Health Board to the meeting and thanked them for attending and accommodating the revised timing. She noted that Members would have questions reflecting concerns from their constituents and expressed anticipation of the presentation and discussion. The Presiding Member invited Professor Phil Kloer to introduce the item. Professor Kloer thanked Council for the invitation and emphasised the importance of engagement with elected Members. He highlighted that both the Health Board and the Council share a common objective in improving the health and wellbeing of the population. He outlined a number of shared challenges, including demographic pressures, workforce shortages, and widening health inequalities. He stressed that improving health outcomes extends beyond healthcare provision alone and requires strong partnership working between organisations. He advised that the focus of the discussion would be the Clinical Services Plan, particularly emergency general surgery, but recognised that wider concerns, including other consultations such as stroke services, were also relevant. Mr Lee Davies then provided a power point presentation which outlined the Clinical Services Plan programme, which commenced in March 2023 to review a number of services identified as fragile. He explained that the review had been driven by access challenges, workforce and service fragility, and concerns around quality and sustainability. The process included detailed analysis, engagement with over 6,000 service users, the development of options by clinical and operational leads, a large-scale public consultation, and final consideration by the Health Board in February. In relation to emergency general surgery, he advised that most patients presenting to the service do not require an operation and are treated through observation and other non-surgical interventions. However, he noted that the service is currently fragile, with low case volumes, reliance on agency staff, and difficulties maintaining clinician skills and rota resilience. He highlighted that the current model creates inequity in access and outcomes compared to other areas, and that it is not sustainable in the longer term. National reviews had also identified similar concerns, particularly in regions with smaller units such as West Wales. Mr Davies explained that two main options had been developed and consulted upon. Following analysis of feedback and evidence, the Health Board had agreed to proceed with Option A. This would involve centralising emergency general surgery operations at Glangwili Hospital, while maintaining and strengthening Same Day Emergency Care services at Withybush Hospital. He advised that most patients would continue to be treated locally at Withybush, with only a small number—estimated at between five and nine per week—requiring transfer to Glangwili. He confirmed that there would be no change to how patients access emergency care or minor injury services, and that additional arrangements would be put in place to manage patient transfers without placing pressure on ambulance services. He further advised that the aim of the changes was to improve patient outcomes, enhance service resilience, and ensure a safer and more sustainable model of care. He outlined next steps, including recent recruitment to consultant posts, ongoing work to develop transport arrangements, audits of patient pathways, and further development of implementation plans to be reported to the Health Board. Professor Kloer concluded by outlining that the Health Board’s refreshed strategy continues to focus on thriving teams, healthy communities, high-quality care, and long-term sustainability. He emphasised that many of these aims require partnership working and expressed a desire to strengthen engagement with elected Members in addressing shared challenges and supporting implementation of the strategy. The Presiding Member thanked the Health Board for the very comprehensive presentation and then invited questions. The key points were noted as follows: Councillor Jon Harvey thanked the Health Board representatives and said he understood the rationale for the proposed changes, particularly workforce and specialist requirements, but remained concerned about practical implications. Referring to a personal experience of emergency surgery at Withybush Hospital, he asked how similar cases would be managed under the new model, including whether patients would be assessed locally and then transferred for surgery. He also raised concerns about seasonal population increases and how services would respond to higher demand, alongside issues of travel times, ambulance availability, inter-hospital transfers, and the impact on families visiting patients given limited public transport. In response, Mr Henwood explained that patients would continue to be assessed locally with access to diagnostics, but those requiring emergency surgery would be transferred to Glangwili. He noted that improved triage, including NHS 111, would help direct patients more efficiently, and confirmed that emergency assessment services would remain at Withybush. Mr Davies advised that seasonal demand had been factored into modelling and that a more resilient service would better manage peaks. He confirmed that inter-hospital transfers are already routine and that work is ongoing to develop dedicated transfer arrangements that do not rely on emergency ambulances. He acknowledged public transport limitations, noting most patients travel by car, and confirmed that support schemes remain in place. He emphasised that transport remains a key issue requiring continued collaboration with the Council. Councillor Michael John thanked the Health Board representatives and welcomed the opportunity to engage. He noted that Members often receive public concerns, particularly where there is uncertainty about service changes, and highlighted a perception that changes to emergency general surgery would result in the loss of Accident and Emergency services. He welcomed clarification that this was not the case, as well as positive news on recruitment at Withybush Hospital. He emphasised the importance of ongoing engagement with elected Members, suggesting this could be supported through existing forums. He also raised concerns about patient transport and ambulance pressures, referring to the Falls and Frailty Response Team and its role in reducing demand on emergency services. He expressed concern at reports that the scheme may be withdrawn and sought clarification. He further reflected wider public concern about the perceived gradual reduction of services at Withybush and its impact on confidence. In response, Professor Phil Kloer acknowledged the importance of the Falls and Frailty service in addressing demand from falls-related incidents. He confirmed he did not have specific details on its reported withdrawal but undertook to investigate and provide further information outside the meeting. Councillor Di Clements thanked the Health Board representatives and for their response to the Council’s Notice of Motion. She noted that, despite consultation, the scale and complexity of processes can make it difficult for the public to understand implications, highlighting strong public concern, including a significant Senedd petition. She queried progress on plans for a new hospital in West Wales and raised concerns about the impact of ongoing uncertainty on public confidence, recruitment, and perceptions of gradual service reduction at Withybush Hospital. She sought assurance on the long-term future of Accident and Emergency services at Withybush, questioning whether reduced patient flows could affect viability. She also asked for clarity on implementation timelines for emergency general surgery changes, patient transport arrangements, and how enhanced provision at Glangwili Hospital would operate. In response, Professor Phil Kloer confirmed that the Health Board continues to pursue its long-term strategy, including consideration of a new hospital, with discussions ongoing with Welsh Government but no firm decisions or timelines yet agreed. He noted that interim changes are needed due to the fragility of current services. Mr Mark Henwood explained that the existing model at Withybush is unsustainable due to reliance on a small number of surgeons, and that consolidating teams would improve resilience, recruitment and access to specialist care. He confirmed that patients would continue to be assessed locally, with transfers only where surgery is required. Mr Lee Davies advised that no immediate changes are planned, with implementation expected over 12–24 months. He emphasised that key elements, including transfer arrangements, enhanced same-day emergency care and clinical pathways, must be in place before changes are introduced, although there remains urgency given current risks. [Councillor Danny Young left the meeting at this juncture.] Councillor Mark Carter thanked the Health Board representatives and sought clarification on several points. He asked for an explanation of Same Day Emergency Care (SDEC), and was advised by Mr Henwood that it involves assessing, investigating and treating patients on the same day without admission, with many conditions now managed conservatively. Patients presenting outside SDEC hours would continue to be assessed through the Emergency Department as at present. Councillor Carter also raised concerns about ambulance availability in rural areas and whether changes would worsen pressures. Professor Kloer noted that ambulance services are commissioned nationally but emphasised that system improvements, including reducing hospital delays, should help improve availability overall. Mr Davies clarified the distinction between emergency ambulances, non-emergency transport, and proposed inter-hospital transfers, confirming that additional transfer capacity would be developed without relying on emergency services. He added that reducing admissions and improving discharges would further ease system pressures. Councillor Carter questioned why services appeared to be moving away from Withybush rather than towards it. In response, Professor Kloer stated that some services are being relocated to Withybush as part of the wider strategy, while Mr Henwood highlighted the expansion of elective and day-case surgery at the hospital, improving access and reducing waiting times for local patients. Councillor Nick Neumann thanked the Health Board representatives and sought reassurance that services are adequately staffed with suitably qualified professionals, and that patients in Pembrokeshire can expect the same standard of care as elsewhere, emphasising the need for confidence in safety and effectiveness. In response, Professor Kloer acknowledged these concerns, noting that some services at Withybush, particularly elderly care and frailty, are of high quality, though emergency general surgery remains a challenge and has driven the need for service review. Mr Henwood added that while services are safe, there is variability in standards across the Health Board. He explained that the Clinical Services Plan aims to address this by consolidating services and improving access to specialist expertise, ensuring more consistent, high-quality care and better outcomes for patients across West Wales. Councillor Michelle Bateman thanked the Health Board representatives and raised concerns about the gap between strategic planning and practical delivery. She highlighted issues with patient transfers, including communication failures, incomplete information, and transport problems leading to cancelled appointments. She questioned how resilience would be built into the proposed model, expressing concern that it appeared reliant on all elements working perfectly, and asked how robustness, performance monitoring and responsiveness to issues would be ensured. In response, Mr Davies advised that detailed implementation planning is underway, including analysis of patient pathways to ensure the model is fit for purpose. He confirmed that performance will be monitored through measures such as access and treatment times, supported by ongoing audit. Mr Davies acknowledged existing issues with non-emergency patient transport and confirmed these are being addressed with commissioning bodies. He clarified that proposed inter-hospital transfer arrangements will be separate and specifically designed to support the new model, and assured Members that further engagement will take place as implementation progresses. Councillor Delme Harries raised concerns about communication and engagement, noting that some Health Board documentation is overly complex and would benefit from clearer, more concise messaging. While he welcomed the summary document presented, he highlighted the lack of specific timelines and sought reassurance that progress would be delivered, citing limited visible progress on previous projects such as the proposed health centre in Fishguard. He also expressed concern about reliance on digital systems, stressing that not all residents—particularly older or more isolated individuals—can access or use digital technology, and emphasised the need to maintain non-digital options. He further highlighted wider patient experience issues, including increased travel for families and pressures on parking at sites such as Glangwili. In response, Ms Hughes-Moakes acknowledged the feedback on communication and outlined efforts to provide accessible materials in a range of formats, alongside ongoing engagement opportunities. She confirmed that digital services would be supported while ensuring alternative access routes remain available. Mr Davies advised that the Fishguard health campus remains an aspiration being developed with the Council, subject to land and funding. He also acknowledged ongoing parking challenges and confirmed that options to improve provision continue to be explored. Councillor Anji Tinley reflected on her long experience of healthcare in Pembrokeshire, expressing concern about the perceived decline of services at Withybush Hospital and the impact of unfulfilled expectations, including proposals for a new hospital, on public confidence. She queried how consultation questions for the Clinical Services Plan were developed and whether the results reflected the full range of public views. She also raised concerns about patient travel, asking whether transport support would be means tested, and sought further detail on how digital services would be developed and made accessible. In response, Ms Hughes-Moakes explained that initial public engagement informed the development of options alongside clinical input, with consultation questions produced in partnership with Opinion Research Services and tested through engagement activities. She confirmed that a substantial volume of responses had been independently analysed and assured before being presented to the Health Board. Professor Kloer confirmed that inter-hospital transport arrangements would not be means tested, as they form part of urgent and emergency care. He added that digital transformation remains a key priority, including the NHS app and improvements to patient records and prescribing systems, while confirming that non-digital alternatives will remain available. Councillor Sam Skyrme-Blackhall thanked the Health Board representatives and shared a personal experience highlighting delays in ambulance availability and pressures within the Emergency Department, including attendance by patients unable to access alternative services. She raised concerns about wider system pressures, particularly with an ageing population, and difficulties accessing care and transport. She also highlighted issues affecting community transport providers, noting that volunteer drivers had received parking fines at Withybush Hospital while supporting patients, and asked how arrangements could better support these services. In response, Professor Kloer expressed sympathy and acknowledged that these issues reflect wider system pressures, noting ongoing efforts to reduce reliance on Emergency Departments through strengthened community care. Mr Henwood highlighted the development of initiatives such as “hospital at home” to provide care closer to home and reduce hospital attendance. Mr Davies recognised the contribution of community transport services and confirmed he would raise the issue of parking fines with relevant teams and provide a further response following investigation. Councillor Alan Dennison reflected on his personal connections with Withybush Hospital, acknowledging the quality of care provided but raising concerns about ongoing difficulties in recruiting consultants. He questioned whether this was linked to pay or the level of professional challenge and asked what strategy the Health Board has to attract and retain consultants in Pembrokeshire. In response, Mr Henwood advised that consultant pay is set nationally, with no scope for local variation. He noted that recruitment challenges are common across Wales, particularly in rural areas, and emphasised that attracting consultants depends on offering strong, sustainable teams and wider professional opportunities, including research, education and innovation. He explained that smaller teams can limit these opportunities, making recruitment more difficult, and that consolidating services and strengthening teams would improve the attractiveness of posts. He added that the Health Board continues to invest in training, research and education, but that wider structural changes are needed to support long-term recruitment and retention. [Councillors Jonathan Grimes and Anji Tinley left the meeting at this juncture.] Councillor Marc Tierney raised concerns about the ageing hospital estate and asked about capital costs for implementing the Clinical Services Plan, as well as Welsh Government support. He highlighted significant issues with patient transport, including cancellations affecting appointments and surgery, and asked whether dedicated inter-hospital transfer vehicles—similar to previous arrangements—would be guaranteed and how they would be staffed given recruitment challenges. He also raised concerns about patient flow, noting ongoing discharge delays and their impact on capacity. Referring to schemes such as the Pivot programme, he queried what would replace existing initiatives amid funding changes. He further stressed the importance of staff engagement, seeking assurance that frontline staff would be involved in implementing changes and shaping decisions. In response, Professor Kloer acknowledged patient flow as a major challenge, noting that many hospital beds are occupied by patients who could be cared for in community settings, and emphasised the need for joint working with local authorities. He advised that existing initiatives are being reviewed through the Regional Partnership Board to determine future priorities. Mr Davies confirmed that high-level capital cost assessments have been completed and published, with further detailed work to follow. He acknowledged issues with non-emergency patient transport and confirmed these have been raised with commissioning bodies, and that bespoke inter-hospital transfer arrangements will be developed under the new model. He also highlighted the importance of partnership working to address rural transport challenges. Regarding staffing, he confirmed services will continue across sites, with opportunities for development, and that workforce engagement and support will be central to implementation. [Councillor Sam Skyrme-Blackhall left the meeting at this juncture.] Councillor Claire George thanked the Health Board representatives and emphasised the need for clarity on how proposed changes would work in practice, particularly regarding digital technologies, artificial intelligence, and patient-facing tools such as the NHS app. She highlighted the importance of delivering the preventative agenda, building on existing initiatives like wellbeing roadshows, and called for clearer explanations of services such as Same Day Emergency Care (SDEC), noting that terminology can be difficult for Members and the public. She also stressed the need for ongoing communication between the Health Board and elected Members, rather than engagement limited to consultations, and highlighted the importance of closer joint working to address shared challenges, including demographic pressures and rising demand. In response, Professor Kloer welcomed these points, acknowledging the shared challenges and the importance of stronger collaboration. He agreed on the need for more regular and meaningful engagement with elected Members and committed to improving communication and maintaining ongoing dialogue beyond formal consultations. The Council’s Chief Executive supported these comments, noting that while there is already significant collaboration at officer level, there is scope to strengthen and make this more coherent at a strategic and political level. He highlighted the shared pressures faced by both health and social care services, particularly in light of demographic changes which are projected to significantly increase demand over the coming years. He emphasised the importance of joint working to address these challenges, including strengthening community-based provision, improving preventative services, and making effective use of technology. Councillor Neil Prior concluded by thanking Health Board representatives and Members for a constructive discussion. He emphasised that the Health Board’s role extends beyond service delivery to improving population health and wellbeing and highlighted the importance of addressing wider social determinants of health, including housing, employment, transport and poverty. He noted that these challenges require partnership working across organisations and welcomed ongoing discussions to strengthen collaboration. Councillor Mike James thanked the Health Board representatives for attending and praised the quality of the discussion and responses. Speaking from a rural northern ward, he highlighted ongoing challenges with transport and digital access, particularly for older residents, noting that despite improved broadband, many still struggle to use online services and access transport such as community buses. He welcomed the Cardigan Integrated Health Centre as a valuable cross-boundary asset serving Pembrokeshire and neighbouring areas, commending its quality while noting high demand. He also referred to proposals for additional care facilities nearby, particularly step-down beds, and sought clarification. In response, Professor Kloer welcomed the positive feedback, highlighting the Centre’s success, including its same-day urgent care, as a model of integrated care the Health Board aims to expand. Alwena Hughes-Moakes clarified that the proposed development of additional care provision in the area is being led by a private provider and is intended to complement existing services. It was noted that further detail could be provided outside of the meeting if required. The Presiding Member thanked the colleagues from Hywel Dda University Health Board for attending and contributing to the meeting. He acknowledged that Members had raised a wide range of concerns and questions reflecting the views of their constituents, and he welcomed the constructive nature of the discussion. The Presiding Member expressed appreciation for the time given by the Health Board representatives and noted the value of direct engagement with Members. He indicated that the session had been productive and suggested that similar discussions should be held again in the future to maintain ongoing dialogue and collaboration.
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