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Resolved that: (a) The Panel supports the Precept of 8.69% (b) The recommendations contained within the Commissioner’s and Treasurer’s report be approved and the full details contained in the annexed Medium Term Financial Strategy 2024 to 2028 (MTFS) be noted. All parties then re-entered the Meeting and were advised by the Chair of the decision of the Panel. The Chair also made a Statement to the Commissioner and his Team advising of the views of the Panel and how the decision of the Panel had been reached: The Panel expressed its disappointed that the financial burden of paying for an effective police force was being gradually transferred from Central Government to the public generally via the Precept and the Panel felt strongly that this should not continue. The Panel considered the precept proposal to be high and by approving the same it recognised that once again this placed further financial pressure on the Council Tax paying public of South Wales at a time when the finances of the public were stretched. It was however made clear from the SWPCP Precept report and in the Commissioner’s presentation that the increase was needed and necessary to ensure the Police continue to be adequately funded allowing trust and confidence in the Police to not only be maintained but to be increased. In coming to its decision, the Panel recognised the significant funding shortfall affecting the Police in areas such as the police pay rise, the Police Funding Formula, Capital City Funding and the application of the Apprenticeship Levy and to that end the Panel confirmed its commitment to support the Commissioner in addressing these shortfalls which even with the agreed precept will require the Police to find savings of £9 million. Had the Precept been vetoed, it was likely that any funding shortfall resulting from this may have had to come from Neighbourhood Policing and this was something the Panel was not prepared to risk.
Resolved that: The Complaints detailed in Appendix 1 of the report be noted.
Apologies for absence were received from Councillor H Lawson.
M Jehu Declared his Interest in Item 3 – Precept and Budget Proposals for 2024/2025 plus Medium Term Financial Strategy 2024/2025 to 2027/2028 as he is a Non Executive Director of Safer Merthyr Tydfil who receive funding from the Commissioner’s Office. S James Declared her Interest in Item 3 – Precept and Budget Proposals for 2024/2025 plus Medium Term Financial Strategy 2024/2025 to 2027/2028 as she is a Trainer for Safer Wales. Councillor B Bowen-Thompson Declared her Interest in Item 3 – Precept and Budget Proposals for 2024/2025 plus Medium Term Financial Strategy 2024/2025 to 2027/2028 as she is Chief Executive for Safer Wales.
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Resolved that: (a) The Panel supports the Precept of 8.69% (b) The recommendations contained within the Commissioner’s and Treasurer’s report be approved and the full details contained in the annexed Medium Term Financial Strategy 2024 to 2028 (MTFS) be noted. All parties then re-entered the Meeting and were advised by the Chair of the decision of the Panel. The Chair also made a Statement to the Commissioner and his Team advising of the views of the Panel and how the decision of the Panel had been reached: The Panel expressed its disappointed that the financial burden of paying for an effective police force was being gradually transferred from Central Government to the public generally via the Precept and the Panel felt strongly that this should not continue. The Panel considered the precept proposal to be high and by approving the same it recognised that once again this placed further financial pressure on the Council Tax paying public of South Wales at a time when the finances of the public were stretched. It was however made clear from the SWPCP Precept report and in the Commissioner’s presentation that the increase was needed and necessary to ensure the Police continue to be adequately funded allowing trust and confidence in the Police to not only be maintained but to be increased. In coming to its decision, the Panel recognised the significant funding shortfall affecting the Police in areas such as the police pay rise, the Police Funding Formula, Capital City Funding and the application of the Apprenticeship Levy and to that end the Panel confirmed its commitment to support the Commissioner in addressing these shortfalls which even with the agreed precept will require the Police to find savings of £9 million. Had the Precept been vetoed, it was likely that any funding shortfall resulting from this may have had to come from Neighbourhood Policing and this was something the Panel was not prepared to risk.
The Chair welcomed all parties to the Meeting. Alun Michael introduced the Panel to the ‘Precept and Budget Proposals for 2024/2025 plus Medium Term Financial Strategy 2024/2025 to 2027/2028’ and the Precept Consultation Public Survey Results’ reports. Alun Michael gave details of the Challenges, Financial Pressures on Communities, Neighbourhood Policing, Community Engagement and Safer Communities across South Wales. Mr Michael then gave details of the Precept Proposal for 2024/2025 with a proposal for an increase of 8.69%. This would be an increase per month for a Band D property of £2.35. A Presentation was then made to the Panel entitled ‘Meeting the Policing Challenge 2024-25’ with detailed information being given by Alun Michael, Jeremy Vaughan, Emma Wools, Lee Jones and David Holloway-Young on the following: · Precept Proposal 2024/2025 · A Typical Day in South Wales Police - Incoming/ Ongoing Demand · Emergency Calls – Even more Complex – Call Duration · Increased Pressures and Demands – Graph 2016 – 2022 · Critical and Major Incidents · Making People Safe · Justice for Victims of Rape and Serious Sexual Offences – Implementation of Op Soteria · Getting a Grip on Crime – Serious Sexual Offences, Rape, Residential Burglary, Robbery · HMICFRS found South Wales Police Good for Preventing Crime, Responding to the Public, Investigating Crime, Good use of Resources · DRIVE · DYFODOL · Uned Atal Trais – Violence Prevention Unit · Giving Hope to Women Offenders – Women’s Pathfinder Programme · Crime / 1000 Population Compared to Most Similar Grouping and All Forces 2011 to 2022 · Incidence of Crime in Comparison to MSG 2011 to 2022 · Challenges – Inflation – Consumer Price Index Inflation / Consumer Price Index Level – Graph 2018 to 2028 · We are Shortchanged by £79m · Budget and Financial Forecast 2024 –2025 – 2028 · We are disadvantaged by £18m – The Capital City of Wales, The Funding Formula Freeze, The Apprenticeship Levy, Loss of Capital Grant · Shortfall in Government Funding getting worse – How the Shortfall will be Financed · Comparative Growth in Council Tax Base 2021 – 2029 · Limited Room to Cut without putting the public at risk · Neighbourhood Policing · Precept Proposal 2024/2025 The Chair then thanked the Commissioner, Jeremy Vaughan and the Officers for the Presentation and the thorough information on the reports. Declaration of Interest Councillor S Perkes Declared her Interest in the item as her role as a Councillor now includes Safer Vale. The following questions were then raised by the Panel and were responded to in detail: · If the percentage requested were agreed what commitment would there be to the continuing hard work and improvement – Could it be seen where the money was going · Cost of the Commissioners Office – What has been the cost in running the Office from 2012 to now · Further details requested in relation to PCSO’s · How the Police are drawn in to support other Public Services that is not their role – Can this be addressed · Risk and Resilience – Assurance sought in relation to Reserves All parties then left the Meeting. Considerable debate then ensued on the item by the Panel with a suggestion that a letter be sent to the Welsh and UK Governments together with other parties stating the views of the Panel or that a Meeting be sought with the Minister through the WLGA for the Chair or Vice Chair to attend together with all the other Welsh Panels. Simon Jones then advised the Panel of their options in relation to the Proposed Precept. A vote was then taken on whether to support the Proposed Precept of 8.69% and it was Resolved that: (a) The Panel supports the Precept of 8.69% (b) The recommendations contained within the Commissioner’s and Treasurer’s report be approved and the full details contained in the annexed Medium Term Financial Strategy 2024 to 2028 (MTFS) be noted. All parties then re-entered the Meeting and were advised by the Chair of the decision of the Panel. The Chair also made a Statement to the Commissioner and his Team advising of the views of the Panel and how the decision of the Panel had been reached: The Panel expressed its disappointed that the financial burden of paying for an effective police force was being gradually transferred from Central Government to the public generally via the Precept and the Panel felt strongly that this should not continue. The Panel considered the precept proposal to be high and by approving the same it recognised that once again this placed further financial pressure on the Council Tax paying public of South Wales at a time when the finances of the public were stretched. It was however made clear from the SWPCP Precept report and in the Commissioner’s presentation that the increase was needed and necessary to ensure the Police continue to be adequately funded allowing trust and confidence in the Police to not only be maintained but to be increased. In coming to its decision, the Panel recognised the significant funding shortfall affecting the Police in areas such as the police pay rise, the Police Funding Formula, Capital City Funding and the application of the Apprenticeship Levy and to that end the Panel confirmed its commitment to support the Commissioner in addressing these shortfalls which even with the agreed precept will require the Police to find savings of £9 million. Had the Precept been vetoed, it was likely that any funding shortfall resulting from this may have had to come from Neighbourhood Policing and this was something the Panel was not prepared to risk.
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Resolved that: The Complaints detailed in Appendix 1 of the report be noted.
Simon Jones referred to the Complaints report and updated the Panel on the Complaints. Resolved that: The Complaints detailed in Appendix 1 of the report be noted.
The Chair advised that there was no other business deemed urgent.
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