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RESOLVED – That the Sub Committee, having considered the application on its individual merits, the committee papers, the statutory guidance made under section 182 of the Licensing Act 200 and the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy, submissions made by the applicant and all other parties, and the oral evidence given by the applicant and objectors during the hearing in its determination of the matter GRANTED the application; subject to the agreed conditions with South Wales Police and Pollution Control. The Sub Committee heard from the applicant and listened to all the evidence and submissions and all the written material. Members also considered the Licensing Act 2003, the Section 182 Guidance, the Statement of Licensing Policy and Cumulative Impact Assessment. Members also heard the oral representations from the applicant and the local ward member. The Sub Committee noted that the applicant has agreed the conditions with South Wales Police and Environmental Health Pollution Control and they have subsequently withdrawn their objections. The Sub Committee carefully considered the objections, representations and written material and feel that the applicant has demonstrated that the application is exceptional and the granting of this licence will not undermine the licensing objectives. Members also accepted that the premises will continue to operate as a public house. The Sub Committee therefore resolved to grant the licence subject to the agreed conditions with South Wales Police and Environmental Health Pollution Control.
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RESOLVED – That the Sub Committee, having considered the application on its individual merits, the committee papers, the statutory guidance made under section 182 of the Licensing Act 200 and the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy, submissions made by the applicant and all other parties, and the oral evidence given by the applicant and objectors during the hearing in its determination of the matter GRANTED the application; subject to the agreed conditions with South Wales Police and Pollution Control. The Sub Committee heard from the applicant and listened to all the evidence and submissions and all the written material. Members also considered the Licensing Act 2003, the Section 182 Guidance, the Statement of Licensing Policy and Cumulative Impact Assessment. Members also heard the oral representations from the applicant and the local ward member. The Sub Committee noted that the applicant has agreed the conditions with South Wales Police and Environmental Health Pollution Control and they have subsequently withdrawn their objections. The Sub Committee carefully considered the objections, representations and written material and feel that the applicant has demonstrated that the application is exceptional and the granting of this licence will not undermine the licensing objectives. Members also accepted that the premises will continue to operate as a public house. The Sub Committee therefore resolved to grant the licence subject to the agreed conditions with South Wales Police and Environmental Health Pollution Control.
Present Applicants: Carl Ryan represented by Tony Bowley and Ellis Clarke Interested Other: Councillor Chris Weaver The Application An application for the grant of a Premises Licence has been received from Canal Quarter PLH Ltd in respect of The Cardiff Arms, 23 Churchill Way, Cardiff. The applicant applied for the following: (1) In respect of the following licensable activities: (i) The sale of alcohol for consumption on and off the premises. (ii) The provision of regulated entertainment in the form of live music, recorded music and entertainment of a similar description (indoors). (iii) The provision of late night refreshment (indoors). (2) Description of Premises (as stated by applicant): “Traditional British Public House in Cardiff City Centre”. (3) Unless otherwise indicated the premises may be open to the public during the following hours and for any hours consequential to the non-standard timings: Monday to Sunday: 11:00 to 02:30 hours New Year’s Eve: 07:00 to 03:30 hours (4) To provide licensable activities during the following hours: (i) The sale of alcohol for consumption on and off the premises: Monday to Sunday: 11:00 to 02:00 hours New Year’s Eve: 07:00 to 03:00 hours (ii) The provision of regulated entertainment in the form of live music, recorded music and entertainment of a similar description (indoors): Monday to Sunday: 11:00 to 02:00 hours New Year’s Eve: 07:00 to 03:00 hours (iii) The provision of late night refreshment (indoors): Monday to Sunday: 23:00 to 02:30 hours New Year’s Eve: 23:00 to 03:00 hours Members were advised that, following consultation with South Wales Police and Pollution Control, the applicant had accepted a number of conditions and the application would therefore be amended to include those conditions. Applicant Representation Mr Tony Bowley addressed the Sub Committee and presented the application. Members were advised that the applicant was a very experienced operator who had been trading in the city centre since 2003. The applicant held 5 premises licences in Churchill Way. These premises had been acquired in 2024 and had been fitted out as a traditional British pub, with a pool table and space that could accommodate a singer for occasional live entertainment, as well as seating both inside and outside. The ground floor bar area has a capacity of 80 customers and there was seating outside the premises for a maximum of 98 customers which operated under a pavement licence and had a terminal hour of 2300 hours. Members were advised that the application was not seeking to change the operation of the external area. Mr Bowley provided a summary of the operation of the premises, the food and drink offering and its current hours of operation. He stated that the premises offered standard pub meals at approximately £9 each. Drinks were in line with city centre pricing – lager around £6 a pint, cocktails approximately £10, and the cheapest bottle of wine approximately £24. MR Bowley emphasised that they were not substantially cheaper than other pubs in the area. Members were advised that the premises currently operate under a standard terminal hour of 2300 hours. Mr Bowley stated that this was the earliest cut off time for any public house in the City Centre and many public houses in the suburbs would have a later terminal hour. Mr Bowley stated that the premises cannot cater to patrons who would like a drink following a show or concert before returning home or to their hotel. Customers at the premises cannot understand why the premises has a 2300 hr terminal hour for sale of alcohol. Mr Bowley considered that there was not a ‘level playing field’ with other licenced premises nearby. Members were advised that since the premises started operating 5 months ago there have been no reports of any crime, anti-social behaviour or public nuisance at the premises. The applicant consulted with the South Wales Police and Neighbourhood Services and had agreed to accept a number of conditions that would promote the licensing objectives. Members were asked to note that there were no objections to the application from any responsible authority. Mr Bowley referred to the authority’s Statement of Licensing Policy. It was accepted that the premises was within the Cumulative Impact Policy area. Therefore any application must be exceptional. Mr Bowley considered that this was an exceptional application and there would also be no net increase in the total number of licence premises within the Cumulative Impact Policy area as the existing premises licence would be surrendered should the application be granted. Responding to questions from the Sub Committee, Mr Bowley stated that the applicants were not seeking to attract the ‘student market’. It was considered that the pricing of drinks at the premises would not be attractive to younger people. In terms of activities, there was currently a quiz night on Mondays and sporting events would be shown. Live music is not planned and a condition has been agreed that all doors and windows will remain closed. Other Person’s Representations Councillor Chris Weaver addressed the Sub Committee on behalf of local residents. Councillor Weaver considered that an extension to the current hours of operation would fail to uphold the licensing objectives and an increase in crime and disorder and public nuisance would be inevitable. The current terminal hour of 2300 hours was in line with the majority of public houses and any extension to those hours would effectively convert the premises to a nightclub. Concerns were raised regarding disturbance being caused by customers moving between premises in Churchill Way. Members were advised that there were hundreds of residents living in close proximity to the premises and people would be entering and leaving the premises until the early hours of the morning. Councillor Weaver considered that the Cumulative Impact Policy – which presumes that no new licences will be granted - should be applied and the application was contrary to the policy. There was nothing in the application that would Members could consider to be ‘exceptional’. It was accepted that the premises were well managed by experienced operators. However, this is the minimum that the Licensing Authority would expect and this cannot be considered to be exceptional. Councillor Weaver raised concerns that opening until 0230 hours on weekdays was clearly going to cause disruption and will absolutely cause disturbance to nearby residents. Members were urged to apply the Statement of Licensing Policy. As no rebuttal to the policy was offered and the application was not exceptional there were clear grounds for refusal. Members sought clarification of the operating hours for other licenced premises in the area. The Licensing Officer provided a summary of the hours of operation for a number of premises in the vicinity. Summing Up All parties were invited to sum up. Councillor Weaver stated that nuisance would inevitably be caused if the application was granted and considered that the application was not exceptional. Mr Bowley stated that applicant managed the Dock Feeder Bar operated nearby until 0130 hour with no issues. The premises would also not morph into a nightclub as the applicant also managed a nightclub nearby which would be in direct competition and which would make no commercial sense. Members were invited to grant the application. RESOLVED – That the Sub Committee, having considered the application on its individual merits, the committee papers, the statutory guidance made under section 182 of the Licensing Act 200 and the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy, submissions made by the applicant and all other parties, and the oral evidence given by the applicant and objectors during the hearing in its determination of the matter GRANTED the application; subject to the agreed conditions with South Wales Police and Pollution Control. The Sub Committee heard from the applicant and listened to all the evidence and submissions and all the written material. Members also considered the Licensing Act 2003, the Section 182 Guidance, the Statement of Licensing Policy and Cumulative Impact Assessment. Members also heard the oral representations from the applicant and the local ward member. The Sub Committee noted that the applicant has agreed the conditions with South Wales Police and Environmental Health Pollution Control and they have subsequently withdrawn their objections. The Sub Committee carefully considered the objections, representations and written material and feel that the applicant has demonstrated that the application is exceptional and the granting of this licence will not undermine the licensing objectives. Members also accepted that the premises will continue to operate as a public house. The Sub Committee therefore resolved to grant the licence subject to the agreed conditions with South Wales Police and Environmental Health Pollution Control.
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