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RESOLVED – That the Sub Committee, having considered the application on its individual merits, the committee papers, the statutory guidance made under section 182 of the Licensing Act 2003 and the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy, submissions made by the applicant and all other parties, and the oral evidence given by the applicant and objectors during the hearing in its determination of the matter, GRANTED the application, subject to the agreed conditions with South Wales Police and Environmental Health / Pollution Control. The Sub Committee noted that the applicant has agreed conditions with South Wales Police and Environmental Health Pollution Control, leading to the withdrawal of their objections. It felt that while local residents and the Ward Member raised valid concerns, the agreed reduction in operating hours sufficiently addressed potential late evening public nuisance.
RESOLVED – That the Sub Committee, having considered the application on its individual merits, the committee papers, the statutory guidance made under section 182 of the Licensing Act 2003 and the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy, submissions made by the applicant and all other parties, and the oral evidence given by the applicant and objectors during the hearing in its determination of the matter, GRANTED the application subject to the conditions agreed with South Wales Police, and with an additional condition reducing the hours when alcohol could be sold to 7am-11pm. The Sub Committee noted that the applicant had agreed to the conditions proposed by South Wales Police, leading to the withdrawal of their objection. The Sub Committee accepted the concerns raised by the local resident and ward member, particularly in relation to the late night sale of alcohol. Members felt that the sale of alcohol after 11pm in this case was likely to cause an increase in crime and disorder and public nuisance, and noted that the applicant was willing to reduce the hours accordingly.
RESOLVED – That the Sub Committee, having considered the application on its individual merits, the committee papers, the statutory guidance made under section 182 of the Licensing Act 2003 and the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy, submissions made by the applicant and all other parties, and the oral evidence given by the applicant and objectors during the hearing in its determination of the matter, REFUSED the application The Sub Committee noted that the application was for a premises located in an area that covered by a cumulative impact assessment, and fell within the red category. There were issues of crime and disorder in the area linked to off-licences, as outlined in the cumulative impact policy and South Wales Police’s representations. The Sub Committee also gave sufficient weight to the Licensing Authority’s representation in respect of the applicant not being sufficiently aware their own application or the cumulative impact assessment, which raised significant concerns. The Sub Committee considered that the granting of the licence would undermine the licensing objectives and add to the negative cumulative impact within the area.
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Decision as recorded
RESOLVED – That the Sub Committee, having considered the application on its individual merits, the committee papers, the statutory guidance made under section 182 of the Licensing Act 2003 and the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy, submissions made by the applicant and all other parties, and the oral evidence given by the applicant and objectors during the hearing in its determination of the matter, GRANTED the application, subject to the agreed conditions with South Wales Police and Environmental Health / Pollution Control. The Sub Committee noted that the applicant has agreed conditions with South Wales Police and Environmental Health Pollution Control, leading to the withdrawal of their objections. It felt that while local residents and the Ward Member raised valid concerns, the agreed reduction in operating hours sufficiently addressed potential late evening public nuisance.
Present Applicant: Oliver Bennett Other Person: Councillor Chris Weaver The Application An application for the grant of a Premises Licence was received from Oliver Bennett in respect of Dalton Yard, Dalton Street, Cathays, Cardiff. The applicant had applied for the following: (1) In respect of the following licensable activities: (i) The sale of alcohol for consumption on the premises. (2) Description of Premises (as stated by applicant): “Community Cafe / bar / food pop up. Partially covered outdoor area, arts, crafts, music. Available for hire. Approx 5m X 5m seating and a similar kitchen area. Have previously held successful food popups, private events, craft events with local business”. (3) Unless otherwise indicated the premises may be open to the public during the following hours and for any hours consequential to the non-standard timings: Monday to Sunday: 07:30 to 23:00 hours New Year’s Eve: 07:30 to 00:30 hours (4) To provide licensable activities during the following hours: (i) The sale of alcohol for consumption on the premises: Monday to Sunday: 12:00 to 23:00 hours New Year’s Eve: 12:00 to 00:30 hours Applicant Representations Mr Oliver Bennett was invited to present the application. Members were advised that the application was seeking to provide the sale of alcohol for consumption on the premises for a small community venue in Cathays. No off sales were applied for. The premises was a community café and bar space that could also be rented out for small scale local events. Until now, events had been held using Temporary Event Notices. Most of those events had been successful, but it was accepted that there were some complaints made by local residents affected by noise nuisance during some of those events. The sale of alcohol was ancillary to the sale of food at some of the events held and therefore a licence to permit sale of alcohol was now being sought. Mr Bennett stated that the original application sought permission for sale of alcohol until 23:00 hours, but after consulting with South Wales Police and Environmental Health he accepted that 20:00 hours would be more suitable. Furthermore, the venue had entered into an agreement with a local coffee vendor and the focus would now be more on providing a coffee shop and food. The intention was to engage with local residents and provide a place where local people could come and enjoy. Responding to questions from the Sub Committee, Mr Bennett clarified that alcohol could be purchased without buying food. At the moment there had been limited engagement with local residents, but they would work alongside the coffee company who had experience engaging with community groups though letter drops and social media. There were no particular plans for events on Bank Holidays at present. Any music provided at the venue would be low key events and volume would be at a reasonable level. Mr Bennett also described the layout of the venue and its historical usage. Mr Bennett confirmed that he would be the Designated Premises Supervisor and that when he wasn’t on site an experienced bar manager would be responsible for managing the venue. It was also confirmed that all the conditions contained in the written representations received from South Wales Police were accepted. Members asked how customers would be prevented from leaving the premises with drinks. Mr Bennett stated that the front gate would be managed appropriately. Other Person Representations Councillor Chris Weaver stated that the representations made by local Councillors were based on the original application. Councillor Weaver welcomed the reduction in the permitted hours to 20:00 hours and considered that this would go some way to mitigating the impact of events held at the venue on local residents. He considered that having a late night venue at this location would present some challenges. It was welcome that the application had accepted the conditions requested by South Wales Police, and that a number of the concerns would be addressed as a result. Councillor Weaver was aware of events such as craft fairs, running clubs and coffee shop held at the venue. These were welcome and could have a positive effect on the community if managed properly. There were, however, clear boundaries given the proximity of the venue. Decision RESOLVED – That the Sub Committee, having considered the application on its individual merits, the committee papers, the statutory guidance made under section 182 of the Licensing Act 2003 and the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy, submissions made by the applicant and all other parties, and the oral evidence given by the applicant and objectors during the hearing in its determination of the matter, GRANTED the application, subject to the agreed conditions with South Wales Police and Environmental Health / Pollution Control. The Sub Committee noted that the applicant has agreed conditions with South Wales Police and Environmental Health Pollution Control, leading to the withdrawal of their objections. It felt that while local residents and the Ward Member raised valid concerns, the agreed reduction in operating hours sufficiently addressed potential late evening public nuisance.
Decision as recorded
RESOLVED – That the Sub Committee, having considered the application on its individual merits, the committee papers, the statutory guidance made under section 182 of the Licensing Act 2003 and the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy, submissions made by the applicant and all other parties, and the oral evidence given by the applicant and objectors during the hearing in its determination of the matter, GRANTED the application subject to the conditions agreed with South Wales Police, and with an additional condition reducing the hours when alcohol could be sold to 7am-11pm. The Sub Committee noted that the applicant had agreed to the conditions proposed by South Wales Police, leading to the withdrawal of their objection. The Sub Committee accepted the concerns raised by the local resident and ward member, particularly in relation to the late night sale of alcohol. Members felt that the sale of alcohol after 11pm in this case was likely to cause an increase in crime and disorder and public nuisance, and noted that the applicant was willing to reduce the hours accordingly.
Present Applicant: Mr Sujith Reddy Other Person: Councillor Chris Weaver Application An application for the grant of a Premises Licence was received from Deccan Creators Ltd in respect of Deccan Express, 123 Richards Street, Cathays, Cardiff. The applicant had applied for the following: (1) In respect of the following licensable activities: (i) The sale of alcohol for consumption off the premises. (2) Description of Premises (as stated by applicant): “The premises occupies approximately 47 square meters of trading space and is positioned on a corner plot, providing frontage onto two adjoining side roads, which ensures excellent visibility and natural surveillance. The property has one main customer entrance and four front-facing windows, allowing clear external visibility into the store. The interior layout is open and clearly zoned, featuring vinyl flooring for hygiene and easy maintenance. Distinct product areas are allocated for groceries, confectionery, vape products, phone accessories, parcel and top-up services, and alcohol sales. Alcohol will be sold strictly for consumption off the premises, with no seating or consumption area provided either inside or immediately outside the premises. The alcohol display is positioned within clear staff supervision, close to the service counter, and monitored through CCTV. To promote the licensing objectives, the premises is equipped with a comprehensive CCTV system covering entry/exit points, the alcohol display, and all customer areas. The store operates a Challenge 25 policy, with clear signage and staff training on age verification, refusal procedures, and responsible alcohol sales. The corner location and open design allow good visibility and effective management of customer behaviour, helping to prevent nuisance, promote public safety, and maintain a safe and community-friendly trading environment”. (3) Unless otherwise indicated the premises may be open to the public during the following hours and for any hours consequential to the non-standard timings: 24 hours a day, 7 days a week (4) To provide licensable activities during the following hours: (i) The sale of alcohol for consumption off the premises: 24 hours a day, 7 days a week Applicant Representations Presenting his application, Mr Reddy stated that it originally sought to permit off-sales of alcohol 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. However, he had agreed to the conditions put forward by South Wales Police, which included reducing the times that alcohol could be sold from 24 hours to 7am-2am. Responding to questions from the Sub Committee, Mr Reddy stated that his intention was for the shop to be open late providing non-licensable activities, so it was felt that they could provide alcohol during those hours as the shop would be trading. It was anticipated that most customers would be students who tended to frequent other shops in the locality later in the evening. Members noted that the other off licence premises in the area had a terminal hour for the sale of alcohol of 23:00 hours. Mr Reddy stated that he would be happy to amend the application and accept a reduction of the hours permitted to 23:00. It was confirmed that two staff would be present at the premises beyond 18:00. All staff would receive training in sale of age restricted products and the Challenge 25 scheme would be in operation. The applicant stated that it was his first business venture, and he did not have any previous experience operating licensed premises. Other Person Representations Councillor Chris Weaver addressed the Sub Committee, accepting that the premises was a regular convenience store. However, offering sale of alcohol 24 hours per day would attract people into the area, often intoxicated already, and would likely lead to an increase in noise nuisance and crime and disorder in the area. Decision RESOLVED – That the Sub Committee, having considered the application on its individual merits, the committee papers, the statutory guidance made under section 182 of the Licensing Act 2003 and the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy, submissions made by the applicant and all other parties, and the oral evidence given by the applicant and objectors during the hearing in its determination of the matter, GRANTED the application subject to the conditions agreed with South Wales Police, and with an additional condition reducing the hours when alcohol could be sold to 7am-11pm. The Sub Committee noted that the applicant had agreed to the conditions proposed by South Wales Police, leading to the withdrawal of their objection. The Sub Committee accepted the concerns raised by the local resident and ward member, particularly in relation to the late night sale of alcohol. Members felt that the sale of alcohol after 11pm in this case was likely to cause an increase in crime and disorder and public nuisance, and noted that the applicant was willing to reduce the hours accordingly.
Decision as recorded
RESOLVED – That the Sub Committee, having considered the application on its individual merits, the committee papers, the statutory guidance made under section 182 of the Licensing Act 2003 and the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy, submissions made by the applicant and all other parties, and the oral evidence given by the applicant and objectors during the hearing in its determination of the matter, REFUSED the application The Sub Committee noted that the application was for a premises located in an area that covered by a cumulative impact assessment, and fell within the red category. There were issues of crime and disorder in the area linked to off-licences, as outlined in the cumulative impact policy and South Wales Police’s representations. The Sub Committee also gave sufficient weight to the Licensing Authority’s representation in respect of the applicant not being sufficiently aware their own application or the cumulative impact assessment, which raised significant concerns. The Sub Committee considered that the granting of the licence would undermine the licensing objectives and add to the negative cumulative impact within the area.
Present Applicant: Represented by Elif Goksal, ESI Licensing Responsible Authorities Claire Dewhurst, South Wales Police Michele Harries, Cardiff Council Licensing The Application An application for the grant of a Premises Licence had been received from Hardi Ali Fatahi in respect of Premier Queen Street, 119 Queen Street, Cardiff. The applicant had applied for the following: (1) In respect of the following licensable activities: (i) The sale of alcohol for consumption off the premises. (2) Description of Premises (as stated by applicant): “The premises comprise a ground-floor retail unit located at 119 Queen Street, within Cardiff City Centre’s primary shopping and pedestrian area. The unit operates as a modern convenience store offering a range of grocery items, soft drinks, household goods, and essential everyday products. A limited selection of alcohol products is proposed for off-sales only, displayed within secure shelving behind the counter and within clearly defined areas of the shop floor. The premises are fully enclosed and accessed directly from Queen Street, with no external area provided or used for the consumption of alcohol. All alcohol sales will be for consumption off the premises only. The layout is open-plan, designed for clear visibility from the counter and full CCTV coverage to promote responsible retailing and safeguard the licensing objectives. No regulated entertainment or on-sales of alcohol are proposed, and the number of customers on site at any one time will be typical of a small convenience store / Off licence”. (3) Unless otherwise indicated the premises may be open to the public during the following hours and for any hours consequential to the non-standard timings: Monday to Sunday: 07:00 to 23:00 hours (4) To provide licensable activities during the following hours: (i) The sale of alcohol for consumption off the premises: Monday to Sunday: 07:00 to 23:00 hours Applicant Representations Elif Goksal from ESI Licensing presented the application on behalf of the applicant. Members were advised that the premises would be a convenience store offering a range of products, and was not alcohol-led. Ms Goksal considered that a strong set of voluntary conditions had been offered as part of the application to ensure that the licensing objectives were promoted. The applicant understood the concerns around the issues associated with the sale of alcohol in the city centre, but would operate in a very safe way. An undertaking was given to work with South Wales Police and other bodies to ensure that the premises did not contribute to the negative impact of licenced premises within the Cumulative Impact Zone. Responding to questions from the Sub Committee, Ms Goksal accepted that photographs of the layout of the shop submitted by South Wales Police indicated there would be a focus on, and promotion of, alcohol. However, the applicants were working on a revised layout for the premises that would ensure that alcohol was not the main focus, as the premises was not targeting drinkers. Ms Goksal did not accept that the applicant had presumed a licence would be granted. The shop fitting had commenced before the premises licence application was made but no presumption was made. Ms Goksal was asked to explain how the granting of a premises licence at this location would not add to the cumulative impact of crime and disorder and anti-social behaviour evidenced in the area. Ms Goskal repied that her clients could be offered training, and there were strong licensing conditions supporting the application. This combination would mitigate the cumulative impact. A reduction in the hours permitted for the sale of alcohol would also be considered. Respond to a question from South Wales Police, Ms Goksal stated that her client was advised by the Premier Stores regarding the layout and style of the shop fitting, but now realised that it was an inappropriate shop layout at this location. It was confirmed that the applicant did not hold another premises licence. Responsible Authority Representations Claire Dewhurst of South Wales Police was invited to speak. Members were reminded that the premises was located within the cumulative impact area and therefore there was a rebuttal presumption that applications for new premises licences would be refused. The cumulative impact area police was supported by strong evidence that increased alcohol sales would have a negative impact the licensing objectives. Claire Dewhurst considered that the conditions offered as part of the application were generic and insufficient. Concerns were also raised regarding the inexperience of the premises licence holder. Members were requested to consider applying the policy and refusing the application as granting a new premises licence would cause an increase in crime and disorder. In respect of the supporting evidence submitted, Ms Dewhurst advised that evidence of crime and disorder at all off-licences in the city centre was considered, including three off-licences in the immediate vicinity of the premises. Responding to questions, Ms Dewhurst stated that South Wales Police would still have concerns about this establishment even if the hours permitted for the sale of alcohol were curtailed. A number of incidents had occurred with problem street drinkers at those premises very nearby. Shorter hours might help to some degree but would also add to the burden regardless. Members were asked to note that the off-licences nearby had SIA trained security staff on duty and still saw thefts and other criminality. The Sub Committee also heard from Michelle Harries of Cardiff Council Licensing. Members were advised that the application had failed to offer the additional measures set out in the Authority’s Statement of Licensing Policy in respect of premises located within the cumulative impact policy area, for example having SIA security staff on duty during major events in the city centre. A reduction in hours was considered to be ineffective as afternoon drinking sessions are very popular and many events take place during the daytime. An additional alcohol licence offering alcohol relatively cheaply compared to other premises would undermine the licensing objectives. Ms Harries stated that during her conversations with the applicant prior to this meeting, she asked what hours were being applied for. The applicant stated that he was seeking permission for the sale of alcohol for 24 hours. Ms Harries considered that it appeared from those conversations that the applicant was not aware of his own application and did not know what the cumulative impact policy was. An offer was made to appraise Mr Fatahi on the cumulative impact assessment, and he replied ‘just tell me the rules and I will adopt them’. Ms Harries raised concerns that the applicant had not read his own application or the council’s policy. This was the minimum expected of an applicant wanting to operate a premises within the city centre. Furthermore, it was considered that the operating schedule was too generic and did not reference the specific issues of the area. In her opinion, granting an additional licence at this location would certainly undermine the licensing objectives. Ms Harries finally stated that she had very little confidence in the applicant being able to effectively manage the premises. Summing Up All parties were given an opportunity to make closing statements. Claire Dewhurst stated that the applicant had failed to demonstrate that they would promote the licensing objectives. Michelle Harries stated that the operating schedule was an applicant’s opportunity to demonstrate how they would uphold the licensing objectives. However, in respect of this application, after reading the accompanying operating schedule, and as a result of conversations directly with the applicant, there was no confidence in his ability to promote the licensing objectives. Ms Goksal stated that the applicant was prepared to amend their application and to permit sale of alcohol between 09:00 hours and 21:00 hours only. She added that her client spoke English as a second language, so might have struggled to understand some of the technical terminology. Decision RESOLVED – That the Sub Committee, having considered the application on its individual merits, the committee papers, the statutory guidance made under section 182 of the Licensing Act 2003 and the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy, submissions made by the applicant and all other parties, and the oral evidence given by the applicant and objectors during the hearing in its determination of the matter, REFUSED the application The Sub Committee noted that the application was for a premises located in an area that covered by a cumulative impact assessment, and fell within the red category. There were issues of crime and disorder in the area linked to off-licences, as outlined in the cumulative impact policy and South Wales Police’s representations. The Sub Committee also gave sufficient weight to the Licensing Authority’s representation in respect of the applicant not being sufficiently aware their own application or the cumulative impact assessment, which raised significant concerns. The Sub Committee considered that the granting of the licence would undermine the licensing objectives and add to the negative cumulative impact within the area.
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